Asus P5WD2 Premium: DDR2-1066 and the Promise of 955x SLI
by Wesley Fink on May 11, 2005 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Memory Stress Testing
Optimum tRAS
In past reviews of AMD motherboards, memory bandwidth tests established that a tRAS of 6 was optimal for the nForce4 chipset, a tRAS of 10 was best for the nForce3 chipset and a tRAS setting of 11 or 12 was generally best for nForce2. Tests with Intel chipsets in the past have generally shown the lowest tRAS setting to provide the best bandwidth with Intel chipsets.Since this was the first memory stress test of a production 955X board, tRAS timings were first tested with memtest86, a free diagnostic program with its own boot OS that will boot from either a floppy disk or optical disk. Bandwidth was measured from tRas 4 to tRAS 15 at the specified DDR2-667 to determine the best tRAS setting. Since Intel recommends 5-5-5-15 timings with DDR2-667, we wanted to establish recommended timings with lower latency memory from Corsair and OCZ.
Memtest86 Bandwidth Asus P5DW2 at DDR2-667 |
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4 tRAS | 3443 |
5 tRAS | 3443 |
6 tRAS | 3443 |
7 tRAS | 3443 |
8 tRAS | 3443 |
9 tRAS | 3443 |
10 tRAS | 3443 |
11 tRAS | 3443 |
12 tRAS | 3360 |
13 tRAS | 3360 |
14 tRAS | 3360 |
15 tRAS | 2184 |
The best bandwidth was achieved with this combination of 955x and Pentium 560 in the 4 to 11 range. Since, historically, Intel chipsets have performed best at the lowest tRAS setting, we used a tRAS of 4 for memory tests. Any value from 4 to 11 should provide similar bandwidth.
Since memory was also tested at DDR2-800, we ran a similar set of tRAS timings at DDR2-800. At that speed, tRAS bandwidth was the same from tRAS 4 to tRAS13, so we tested with tRAS 4 for all DDR2-800 tests.
Memory Stress Tests
Memory stress tests look at the ability of the Asus P5WD2 Premium to operate at the officially supported memory frequency (667MHz DDR2), at the best performing memory timings that Corsair/OCZ PC2-5400 will support. Memory stress testing was conducted by running DDR2 at 667MHz (stock 3:5 ratio) with 2 DIMM slots operating in Dual-Channel mode.Stable DDR667 Timings - 2 DIMMs
(2/4 DIMMs - 1 Dual-Channel Bank) |
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Clock Speed: | 200MHz (800FSB) |
Timing Mode: | 3:5 (200:333 - Default) |
CAS Latency: | 4.0 |
Bank Interleave: | Auto |
RAS to CAS Delay: | 2 |
RAS Precharge: | 2 |
Cycle Time (tRAS): | 4 |
Command Rate: | NA |
The Asus P5WD2 Premium was completely stable with 2 DDR2 modules in Dual-Channel at the settings of 4-2-2-4 at 1.9V.
Filling all four available memory slots is more strenuous on the memory subsystem than testing 2 DDR2 modules on a motherboard.
Stable DDR667 Timings - 4 DIMMs (4/4 DIMMs - 2 Dual-Channel Banks) |
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Clock Speed: | 200MHz (800FSB) |
Timing Mode: | 3:5 (200:333 - Default) |
CAS Latency: | 4.0 |
Bank Interleave: | Auto |
RAS to CAS Delay: | 3 |
RAS Precharge: | 2 |
Precharge Delay: | 4 |
Command Rate: | NA |
4 DDR2 DIMMs were just as stable as 2 DIMMs on the new Asus 955x. We needed slightly slower 4-3-2-4 timings at DDR2-667 when using 4 DDR2 DIMMs at 1.9V. But at 2.0V, the 4 DDR2 dimms ran with complete stability at the same 4-2-2-4 timings that worked with 2 DIMMs. This is a remarkable improvement over the performance that we saw with 4 DDR2 DIMMs on the 925X. Considering the compromises that the AMD Athlon 64 has required with 4 DIMMs, Intel and Asus have done an outstanding job in equipping the 955X with the ability to run 4 DIMMs without much of a compromise.
Since both Corsair and OCZ had submitted new DDR2-667 DIMMs tweaked for best performance and low-latency in the latest DDR2 platforms, these were the only 2 pairs of DIMMs that we had for 4-DIMM testing on this new 955x board. We used a pair of Corsair and a pair of OCZ and these unmatched pairs performed fine at the same timings that worked with 2 DIMMs. Both Corsair and OCZ are based on Micron DDR2 chips, but the SPDs, bandwidth, and timings did differ in our tests of each pair, indicating that they are similar, but not identical in performance.
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HardwareD00d - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
Wow, 3% increase. That falls within a margin of error.HardwareD00d - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
This article did an excellent job of showing why DDR2 is total crap. Until they can tighten up the timings, DDR533==DDR667==DDR800 pretty much.quicksilverXP - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
Hey,What bios was your board running at? I purchased two recently, and both of them don't have the DDR2-800 option. I noticed you have 7 ratios available while mine only has 5, and only up to DDR2-667. My Bios version is 0124 from the POST screen. Can you help me out?
KristopherKubicki - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
"Heatsink" is one word. If you are describing a general "heat sink" (there is a distinction), then you are talking about something else.Furthermore, fans are in fact considered active cooling. Active cooling by definition is any cooling device that can be disabled/enabled at will. Heatsinks are passive; fans, peltiers, etc are not.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A...
Kristopher
Darth Farter - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
well, anyone know where I can find this?what is the msrp for these (dual core) boards, cause those $255/$245 prices on newegg/ZZF are hard to ignore...
fishbits - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
"a fan doesn't actually cool anything, it just pushes air around"Try disabling the fans in your rig and A/C, take temp readings before and after and get back with us. Moving same temp to same temp isn't cooling. Moving cooler air (or water or other) to something that is hotter (chip, compressor, radiator, etc) most definitely actively cools it.
ElFenix - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
heat sink is two wordsfans are not active cooling. air conditioning is active cooling, turning the ceiling fan on in your room is not. a fan doesn't actually cool anything, it just pushes air around.
thanks!
Doughboy - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
My retail package also did not include the WiFi/Tuner and Remote. Still a great board though. :)jonny13 - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
Why the hell is Doom3 listed under DirectX 9 gaming?Someone should tell Carmack that he was actually coding in DirectX 9 and not OpenGL like he thought...
Also, on the third graph of the General Benchmarks, you have the orange color as the Asus P5ND2-SLI instead of the Asus P5WD2 like every other chart. If you are going to use colors for the graphs, at least be consistant.
bob661 - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
#6Hypertransport is an open standard. Neither AMD nor NV owns it.
#10
A64's also use Hypertransport to connect the processor to the northbridge.